Vaccinations

• 11-12-2008 12:31 PM

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  Keeger Joined on 05-06-2008 BC Canada Posts 12

  Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact I can see that this is an older post, but consider with a daughter that there are things like Rubella and Chicken Pox that children are vaccinated against that can cause serious complications is she were to contract them when she is grown-up and pregnant. You are protecting your potential grandchildren, but giving your daughter some vaccinations. Just something to think about.

• 11-17-2008 1:43 PM

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  don'tswiminthemainstream Joined on 08-31-2004 Posts 2,638	Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact  We no longer vaccinate.  But I will be giving my children the option when they are older to get some like rubella.   They are a bit safer when the person is older.  Also, many outbreaks are among the vaccinated. The vaccine does not eliminate the chance of getting the illness.

• 11-17-2008 5:19 PM

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  Jamie2544778 Joined on 05-22-2008 Elk Grove, CA Posts 689

  Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact actually the rubella vaccine can "wear off" by adulthood. Just an FYI but I had to be re- vaccinated in the hospital after I had Tessa in July. They gave it to me before they released me. Apparently I went through the entire pregnancy with no rubella immunity and may have went through all 4 that way. kind of scary since I work with kids. I would suggest all women in their childbearing years be tested and get a booster if you need it. So by vaccinating them as children you aren't protecting them from everything for life.

• 11-17-2008 9:20 PM

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  Mrs Garcia Joined on 09-03-2007 The ax forgets; the tree remembers~African proverb Posts 70

  Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact Rubella and Chicken Pox vaccines both require boosters. It's safer for kids to get Chicken Pox when they're young. We declined it for now, but if Callie hasn't contracted it and gotten natural immunity by the time she hits puberty then we'll do the vaccine. Other than that, we vaccinate. But we do it on an adjusted schedule. I have preemies with very weak immune systems as it is, so we like to not compromise it too much with all the vaccines at once.

• 01-05-2009 6:57 AM

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  Dave's Buttercup Joined on 06-19-2008 Victor Colby due 1/7/09 Posts 5

  Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact michelleb+1: I give it 5 years before they make the "scientific" correlation between vaccines and nuerological disorders (if the big pharm corps allow it)   I don't necessarily agree with this.  Outraged parents have been trying to prove this and get studies to show some kind of correlation for years.  Had there been a correlation, it wouldn't be "hiding" in the information that has been collected from the studies that have been done.  They are constantly changing the schedules of various vaccines to try to get parents to calm down.  I understand it can be very frustrating for parents of sick or diseased children, but a lot of the issues that many claim have developed from vaccines are relatively new issues.  Vaccines and their base compositions have been around for decades.  There could be many, many reasons why children get so sick, it could be something we do during pregnancy, or a new prenatal vitamin that we took the whole time that hasn't been on the market that long; it could be a vaccine, who knows.  Some believe the cure all is not giving them formula, feeding their children purely organic foods, keeping them away from electrical towers, things that people go to great lengths to make sure they do everything "right," when no one fully understands what and why something went wrong.  It is of concern to me as well that parents continue to blame vaccines for developmental issues without the real reasoning behind it and don't vaccinate their children.  When I was interviewing pediatricians, I was thrilled that mine does not accept clients who won't vaccinate their children, for the very reason that last year 5 infants under 1 yo in my area contracted measels after being at a doctor's office with a patient (an 8 yo boy) who was being seen for the disease.  There are many Mexican immigrants in my area that travel back and forth to their country where a lot of people are not vaccinated, and bring back disease with them.  The risks of my son contracting one of these diseases and being sick from getting one, seems much higher to me than the risk of him having developmental problems.  I don't doubt anyone's parenting abilities or their choices as to vaccinate or not; to each his own and I'm just throwing my opinion out there.  Its all in the eye of the beholder, and for my personal situation I think the vaccines benefits outweight the doubt of certainty that is of controversy at this point in time.

• 01-05-2009 8:38 AM

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  Chamelyan Joined on 10-30-2007 Midwest Posts 67

  Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact  It depends on who is doing the study.  When a study came out about the dangers of co-sleeping, it was being endorsed by crib manufacturers and was skewed to show how crib sleep was "safer" than co-sleeping.  While studies have been done, they've all been handled by the pharmaceutical companies, who no doubt want to continue promoting the vaccines.  Parents have been demanding an independent study so non-biased results can be revealed, not the resultes either skewed or mis-interpreted by drug companies.  I disagree with any doctor who will refuse patients for not vaccinating.  We don't vaccinate for a variety of reasons, including religious stand point.  Should my religious views allow a doctor to refuse treatment?  What about the fact that I did have an adverse neurological reaction to an MMR booster at age 5?  Should I simply throw caution to the wind and assume that it will never happen again?  Why take that risk with the people I love most, my children?  Also, most of these conditions are not life-threatening.  Proper heigene keeps most of these diseases at bay, and keeping the immune system healthy by breastfeeding and eating well, avoiding toxins (and there are PLENTY in the vaccines) and managing stress, will keep us from getting sick, as well as fight whatever ailment we receive, if at all.

• 01-05-2009 12:29 PM

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  Coastiewife Joined on 12-06-2006 Kodiak, AK Posts 706

  Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact Chamelyan:  It depends on who is doing the study.  When a study came out about the dangers of co-sleeping, it was being endorsed by crib manufacturers and was skewed to show how crib sleep was "safer" than co-sleeping.  While studies have been done, they've all been handled by the pharmaceutical companies, who no doubt want to continue promoting the vaccines.  Parents have been demanding an independent study so non-biased results can be revealed, not the resultes either skewed or mis-interpreted by drug companies.  I disagree with any doctor who will refuse patients for not vaccinating.  We don't vaccinate for a variety of reasons, including religious stand point.  Should my religious views allow a doctor to refuse treatment?  What about the fact that I did have an adverse neurological reaction to an MMR booster at age 5?  Should I simply throw caution to the wind and assume that it will never happen again?  Why take that risk with the people I love most, my children?  Also, most of these conditions are not life-threatening.  Proper heigene keeps most of these diseases at bay, and keeping the immune system healthy by breastfeeding and eating well, avoiding toxins (and there are PLENTY in the vaccines) and managing stress, will keep us from getting sick, as well as fight whatever ailment we receive, if at all.  Totally agree with everything said here. My previous dr was very supportive of my no vax stance because he doesnt believe in them either. My new drs are against it but I have stood up to them about it... end of story. My 21 month old dd has had none at all and my 3 week old will not either. Me and my 2 brothers were not vaccinated at all until 7th grade when the schools told my mom she "had" to. I freaked out and passed out and got really sick and have not had  one since. We all got a very mild case of chicken pox but that is it. I do think there is a reason that so many people are standing up agaisnt vaccines.

• 01-05-2009 5:09 PM

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  Dave's Buttercup Joined on 06-19-2008 Victor Colby due 1/7/09 Posts 5

  Re: Vaccinations Reply Contact Don't forget that the vaccines are there to protect from disease.  In my area, vaccines are the way to go; there are too many locals immigrants that are not vaccinated that go in and out of Mexico, where there is poor health care in most areas, for my liking.  Its all in how you pick and choose to protect your child from these diseases.  One major thing that people forget until it happens is how damaging disease is, especially to the body of a child.  It can have life altering effects.  I don't trust my child to have wonderful hygiene when I'm not around him in the future and you don't know who has what out there.  Care providers have the same right to pick and choose their clientele as you have the right to pick your care provider.  Its a lot more on their shoulders if they have patients who don't vaccinate and bring in disease to the office where there are healthy people who have not been vaccinated.  They can lose their patients based on this or spread illness.  Its totally up to the care provider, and they shouldn't be forced into adjusting their rules because one patient doesn't like a particular vaccine for whatever reasons.  It just sucks if you want to change your ideals when you've already found a practitioner that has been taking care of one child where you had a different set of rules.  Like I previously said, to each his own.  I have to do what my husband and I believe is best for our child in our particular area.    Its not an easy decision to make, so whoever is left out there wondering what to do, good luck!!!