Induction all set!

• 10-03-2008 2:59 AM

  BoldBeautifulBirth Joined on 11-08-2005 Puget Sound Area, WA Posts 211

  Induction all set! Reply Contact  I'm so sick of reading this. I feel like my heart drops every time I do... why oh why are women so falsely informed? Ignorance is NOT bliss when it comes to child birth. *sigh* I love my job, but I really hate arguing (should I say "nicely disagreeing"?) with the friends, family members and staff of my clients - especially my fence riders.  If only women knew... if only, if only.

• 10-03-2008 6:35 AM

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  ms_quoted Joined on 12-13-2005 Illinois Posts 132

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact What is the saying... "If you don't know your options you have none"?  These women don't REALLY know their options.  Many don't know the risks involved with iduction, the snowball of interventions that can lead from one to another, to another, and so on.  Many don't understand the benefit to their baby of staying in the womb, growing- preparing for birth.  Many are tired,  uncomfortable and anxious to have their babies, when the doctors give them a "reason" for induction like "well, your baby is looking a little big." they jump on it.  I understand, I've been there where I couldn't stand to be pregnant one more minute- but I also had armed myself with a wealth of knowledge on the subject of childbirth (and I'm not talking about What to Expect When Your Expecting), a great support system of family and friends and a great desire to let my child come into the world in his own time.  Not all of these women have that or even know they are missing it.  They are not bad mothers-- they just don't fully know their options.  The good news is, I really feel that more and more women are equipping themselves so that they may be the ones responsible for the choices regarding their labor and birth.  **disclaimer before anyone gets mad at me.  I know that there are indeed true medical reasons for inductions.  I also know that there are many, many inductions done without real medical reasons.  In fact, according to the 1999 Green Journal Review, as many as 3 out of 4 labor inductions were performed without an indicated risk.

• 10-03-2008 8:14 AM

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  *Christa* Joined on 09-06-2005 Posts 1,529	Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact I hear you!  I am due in 5 more wks & am starting to hear things on my bb.  I keep telling them to educate, educate, educate yoursalf.  Fortunatlly there are lots of moms going natural on my bb or I think I;d be long gone by now.  UGH...the frustration!!!!

• 10-03-2008 8:37 AM

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  havingmysoulmatesbaby Joined on 10-28-2007 Montana Posts 59

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact AMEN!!! I am so sick of women blindly following their doctors "expert" advice. With pregnancy and childbirth being SO incredibly important... so life-changing... why oh WHY would you NOT take the time to educate yourself?!? I will never understand this... It makes me shudder to think of all the unnecessary procedures and interventions being forced on these little ones.

• 10-09-2008 8:09 AM

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  My3Honeys Joined on 11-14-2005 Arizona Posts 451

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact I hear you!  I'm so tired of women blindly trusting their doctors.  I have a friend who was pregnant with her first.  She had an u/s at 34 weeks and the doctor told her the baby was already over 6 pounds and that if they didn't schedule a c-section she'd have a 10+ pound baby that she couldn't deliver vaginally.  So, at 39 weeks under the knife she went.  The baby was born at 7 pounds, 8 ounces.  Yeah, a totally "necessary" c-section, huh?

• 10-09-2008 8:51 AM

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  havingmysoulmatesbaby Joined on 10-28-2007 Montana Posts 59

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact Oh, of course it was "necessary" because we all KNOW the baby would've gained 2+ pounds in that last week and we know how COMPLETELY accurate the ultrasounds are. *yeah, right* Oh man, I was so hoping this story was going to end .... "and she told the doctor she didn't believe his line of BS and vaginally delivered an 8 lb healthy baby 3 days past her due date. The End."

• 10-09-2008 9:03 AM

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  Mom~of~Munchkins Joined on 09-14-2005 Posts 240

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact I hear you.  Ugh.  Everytime I see that, I get the urge to rescue that poor mom!  I really think that the June 09 board is going to kick me off before long.  LMAO  I need to back off.  I have a tendency to "rescue" anyways and give unsolicited advice.  I hate it, but sometimes, the mistake itself is what convinces us of the truth.  If I hadn't had such a bad first induction (with two subsequent 'easy' ones), I might not be so against pit as I am now. Ignorance IS kind of bliss, though.  LOL  I used to think Mason's labor wasn't that bad.  That it was easy.  I was pit induced from 0-1, 25%.  Now, in educated hindsight, I know it was intensely hard (because I had triplicate contractions every 90 seconds, lasting for 2-3 minutes each) and Mason was in distress.  The nurses were fumbling to get the EFM in while I was pretty much out of it, when they realized I was complete and could push.  He was born with dark blue/purple hands and feet and blue lips.  I was close to cesarean and he was close to stillbirth.  His apgars were low for the first two and was on oxygen for over 24 hrs.  I had no idea that wasn't normal.  Can you believe that?  The induction, however, was my idea.  My uneducated idea that was not protested at all by my physician.

• 10-09-2008 9:09 AM

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  Mom~of~Munchkins Joined on 09-14-2005 Posts 240

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact havingmysoulmatesbaby: AMEN!!! I am so sick of women blindly following their doctors "expert" advice. With pregnancy and childbirth being SO incredibly important... so life-changing... why oh WHY would you NOT take the time to educate yourself?!? I will never understand this... It makes me shudder to think of all the unnecessary procedures and interventions being forced on these little ones. I think that information like this should be passed from mom to daughter, but our mothers had it even worse than we do!  With twilight sleep and such.  Holy crap.  No wonder my sister is so screwed up in the head!  She was born under twilight!  LOL  Now, at least, she has something to blame it on.  Hehe.  Now, though, the information is sold to the mom (consumer) by the doctor (money-making business).  Its like McDonald's telling you their Chicken Selects are healthy for you.  LOL Anyways, its like breastfeeding.  Our moms didn't really do it, so we are all starting from scratch with our first children, in some cases, fighting with our moms on it's benefits.  I think our children will be in a much better position to make healthy choices than we have been.

• 10-09-2008 11:04 AM

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  sjcush Joined on 09-19-2006 Posts 73

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact I couldn't agree with all of you more!  I do think our generation is changing and women are demanding more of their care providers when it comes to childbirth.  I think a lot of women, in particular first time moms, don't realize the impact childbirth can have on you as a woman and a mother.  I think it's especially hard for those of us that are so passionate about it to see the medical profession pushing induction and mothers choosing induction.  It's sad that you need more education to get a driver's license than you do to have a baby...something that will truly impact you long-term.  The more women keep demanding from their providers, the more they will be held accountable to provide it for us...so KEEP IT UP!  :)  Penny Simkin said "If a mom chooses to be induced, that is the last decision she will make concerning her birth." --how true!

• 10-14-2008 6:45 PM

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  ~Karma~ Joined on 03-12-2006 Nova Scotia; Charlotte May 19/07; #2 Apr 1/09 Posts 1,126

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact I love that quote by Penny Simkin! The whole induction thing drives me NUTS! I am planning a VBAC with this pregnancy and it's even worse for the VBAC girls - all these excuses for why you should have a repeat c/s... then they "agree" to induce you instead - which is a terrible choice for a VBAC-attemptee, increases your risk of rupture, etc and a repeat cs! Sonia - I love your daughter's name - it is my DD's name as well.

• 10-14-2008 7:52 PM

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  Keeger Joined on 05-06-2008 BC Canada Posts 250	Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact Don't have that problem yet on my board, we're May 2009, but I'm sure we will see that when we get closer and it drives me batty too. I might have to stop reading posts for my sanity. And I also love that quote, that's so true.

• 10-15-2008 10:38 AM

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  kt1967 Joined on 07-07-2008 Posts 66

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact Everyone can have their opinion but there are reasons why induction/planned C-sections are needed. I have talked to my doctor since the beginning about all the possible alternatives as I am considered a high risk pregnancy. I would love to have a vaginal delivery but unfortunately, the risk to my baby and me is too high just so I can say I delivered naturally. And, before someone jumps in and says I am being forced or coerced, I am not. I have a background in anatomy (specifically reproduction) and I work in a field where I see first hand the side of labor and delivery that most people do not want to talk about. I have researched teh possible complications and decided that I was not willing to risk my child's life or possible permanent impairment. The only people who have all the facts and can make the decision is the patient/her significant other/and her OB. teh rest of us are just giving our 2 cents.

• 10-15-2008 11:56 AM

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  Mrs Garcia Joined on 09-03-2007 The ax forgets; the tree remembers~African proverb Posts 519

  Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact kt1967: Everyone can have their opinion but there are reasons why induction/planned C-sections are needed. I have talked to my doctor since the beginning about all the possible alternatives as I am considered a high risk pregnancy. I would love to have a vaginal delivery but unfortunately, the risk to my baby and me is too high just so I can say I delivered naturally. And, before someone jumps in and says I am being forced or coerced, I am not. I have a background in anatomy (specifically reproduction) and I work in a field where I see first hand the side of labor and delivery that most people do not want to talk about. I have researched teh possible complications and decided that I was not willing to risk my child's life or possible permanent impairment. The only people who have all the facts and can make the decision is the patient/her significant other/and her OB. teh rest of us are just giving our 2 cents. I don't think any sane person would disagree that some inductions and cesareans are necessary.  That's silly and it's also a silly excuse for the ridiculous rates of cesareans and inductions.  Just because some of them are necessary, doesn't mean that all of them are.  In fact, many professionals would agree that less than half are actually necessary.  (The WHO definitely thinks so!  They've blasted the US cesarean rates in the past, and rightfully so!)  20% of labors are induced and 60%....yes, I said 60% are augmented using pitocin or other tocogenics.  A 30% cesarean rate should be criminal, IMO.  It's outrageous!  Those statistics are absolutely staggering!  I only know one person in real life who has actually gone into labor on her own (besides myself).  She doesn't believe in birth control, epidurals or inductions because of her religion.  But then again, all of her babies have been premature as well.  Everyone else that I know has been induced or has had a c-section as the result of a failed induction.  Of all the women I know who have had surgical births, only 2 were necessary.  Mine and my sister's.  What's the most common reason women are induced?  Scheduling and because they're uncomfortable.  Waaahhhh!!!!  F*cking get over it!  Pregnancy only lasts nine months, deal with it!  I'm so sick of women putting their "comfort" or their "convenience" ahead of their baby's health.  It's sickening!   ....and that's my rant for the day.  I'll step off my soapbox now.

• 10-15-2008 12:03 PM

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  kt1967 Joined on 07-07-2008 Posts 66	Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact On the other hand, all my friends except for 2 have had vaginal births. Everyone has teh right to their own opinion. Don't think that you know everyone.

• 10-15-2008 12:04 PM

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  kt1967 Joined on 07-07-2008 Posts 66	Re: Induction all set! Reply Contact I am done. Thanks for "listening"