Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation

• 09-03-2009 8:58 AM

  Devoney2798069 Joined on 04-13-2008 Posts 823

  Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation Reply Contact Yuppers. I've been thinking about this all summer. Even though I am on Implannon hubby had begun to talk about vasectomy because he was developing this extremely bad fear that I might get pregnant again very soon and the birth control failing. But every time he talks about it he just sounds like a big as* baby. I'm tired of him saying he needs to find a new Primary care so he can get referred to a Urinologist or what ever kind of doc it is that does it, about how he wants to be put to sleep for it and how he even wants it done at a hospital. I just think he's going way over board and I know he's gonna put it off and next thing you know it's gonna be a year later, and blah blah blah. Honestly, I'm scared that my birth control will fail too. As hard on me as Lilly is, she's so high maintenance, I really feel like I'm done. I have a boy, I have a girl. I would never be able to afford to put more than 2 through college anyways, even if I found a career job tomorrow. I doubt I'll ever be able to save enough for my own retirement much less everything else that comes along with kids. Plus, I figure, I'll get a couple days in bed out of it, mad kudos for being the one to suck it up, I'm really not afraid to do it. So I go on the 16th for my annual and I'm just about 99% sure I'm gonna tell her to go ahead and begin the scheduling process. I'd really appreciate some imput from the ladies here too : )

• 09-03-2009 9:21 AM

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  Jill - Arizona Mom Joined on 12-10-2005 Lilyana Elise born 11/24/08 Posts 5,201

  Re: Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation Reply Contact  My advice is:  DON'T DO IT!!!!  I'm not sure if you've read my posts, but Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS or PTS) is very real, and I'm suffering with it.  Please do your research before you have it done. Some women have no problems, but others have so many problems, they wind up going for a reversal, not to have kids, but to have their symptoms stop.  Read this, have your husband read it, and please, please, please, ask him to get a vasectomy.  Tell him to grow a set.  I have about 90% of these symptoms, and these are problems I never had before.  My periods are so bad now, I usually have to stay home.  I've actually bled through super tampon/overnight pad combos in less than an hour.  It's absolutely horrific.   Post Tubal Syndrome (PTS) Symptom List PTS is an an iatrogenesis condition meaning "doctor-caused" or "doctor produced". Many women suffer PTS after having a tubal ligation. The following is a list of symptoms that are associated with post tubal syndrome (PTS). PTS is often the result of a rapid decline in estrogen levels due from the blood supply being damaged to the ovaries during the TL surgery. Depending on the damage to the veins and capillaries, blood volume to the ovaries may slightly decrease or can be eliminated completely (isolated ovarian syndrome, common with hysterectomy operations). Many of the symptoms of PTS are associated with having an estrogen/progesterone imbalance. Other symptoms, such has heavy painful periods may be caused by a hormonal imbalance, could be caused by adenomyosis (bought on by uterus mussel and tissue being damaged, effected by the TL surgery impairing the blood supply to areas of that organ/mussel) or a combination of both. Other theories of PST and the hormonal imbalance that results after a TL is that "target" or "receptor" cells that are important in the relay of hormonal messages are damaged, destroyed, and or removed during the TL surgery. It is derivable that these target or receptor cells are located within the fallopian tube. With this in mind, it's possible for a woman to have both her ovaries still functioning to some degree (if blood supply was not damaged), have no major problems with her uterus (again if blood supply was not damaged to that organ), and still be experiencing a PTS in the from of a hormonal imbalance caused by change in her hormonal message relay system.   *** SYMPTOMS OF POST TUBAL SYNDROME *** 1. Eptopic pregnancy or pregnancy (welll known risk of tubals) 1a.Hot flashes, flushes, night sweats and/or cold flashes, clammy feeling, chills 2. Bouts of rapid heart beat 3. Irritability 4. Mood swings, sudden tears 5. Trouble sleeping through the night (with or without night sweats) 6. Irregular periods; shorter, lighter periods; heavier periods, flooding; phantom periods, shorter cycles, longer cycles 7. Loss of libido (see note) 8. Dry vagina (see note) 8a.Itchy vagina-at time raw like, can radiated from whole area, with absence of yeast infections. (see note) 8b.Color change in vaginal area. (color gets darker - purple/black) 9. Crashing fatigue 10.Anxiety, feeling ill at ease 11.Feelings of dread, apprehension, doom (see note) 12.Difficulty concentrating, disorientation, mental confusion 13.Disturbing memory lapses 14.Incontinence, especially upon sneezing, laughing; urge incontinence (see note) 14a.Prolapse of uterus do to rapid decress in estrogen levels. 15.Itchy, crawly skin (see note) 16.Aching, sore joints, muscles and tendons (see note) 17.Increased tension in muscles 18.Breast tenderness 18a. Decress in breast mass 19.Headache change: increase or decrease 20.Gastrointestinal distress, indigestion, flatulence, gas pain, nausea 21.Sudden bouts of bloat 22.Depression (see note) 23.Exacerbation of existing conditions 24.Increase in allergies 25.Weight gain (see note) 26.Hair loss or thinning, head, pubic, or whole body; increase in facial hair 27.Dizziness, light-headedness, episodes of loss of balance 28.Changes in body odor 29.Electric "shock" or "stabbing" sensation under the skin. 30.Tingling in the extremities, (see note) 31.Gum problems, increased bleeding 32.Burning tongue, burning roof of mouth, bad taste in mouth, change in breath odor (see notes) 33.Osteoporosis (after several years) 34.Changes in fingernails: softer, crack or break easier NOTES: Symptom 1a (flashes) Hot flashes are due to the hypothalamic response to declining ovarian estrogen production. The declining estrogen state induces hypophysiotropic neurons in the arcuate nucleas of the hypothalamus to release gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) in a pulsatile fashion, which in turn stimulates release of luteinizing hormone (LH). Extremely high pulses of LH occur during the period of declining estrogen production. The LH has vasodilatory effects, which leads to flushing. Symptom 7 (loss of libido) For some women the loss is so great that they actually find sex repulsive, in much the same way as they felt before puberty. What hormones give, loss of hormones can take away. Symptom 8 (dry vagina) results in painful intercourse Symptom 8a (Itchy and or raw vaninal area) A normal vaginal pH level is around 4.5. A vaginal pH of 6.0 to 7.5 -- in the absence of a vaginal infection (yeast infection)-- indicates low blood estrogen levels and signals that the woman is menopausal. "The vagina (and whole area) becomes more acidic." http://www.thriveonline.com/health/menopause/seek/info.areyouin.html Symptom 11 (doom thoughts) includes thoughts of death, picturing one's own death. Feelings of complete dispare. Symptom 14 (incontinence) reflects a general loss of smooth muscle tone Symptom 15 (itchy, crawly skin) feeling of ants crawling under the skin, not just dry itchy skin Symptom 16 (aching sore joints) may include such problems as carpal tunnel syndrome Symptom 22 (depression) different from other depression, the inability to cope is overwhelming. There is a feeling of loss of self. Hormone therapy ameliorates the depression dramatically. Symptom 25 (weight gain) often around the waist and thighs, resulting in 'the disappearing waistline' Symptom 29 (shock sensation) "the feeling of a rubber band snapping in the layer of tissue between skin and muscle. It may be a precursor to a hot flash" Symptom 30 (tingling in extremities) can also be a symptom of B-12 deficiency, diabetes, alterations in the flexibility of blood vessels, or a depletion of potassium or calcium Symptom 32 (Burning mouth syndrome

• 09-03-2009 8:37 PM

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  KaiMacWonder Joined on 06-28-2009 Indiana Posts 30

  Re: Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation Reply Contact  This is a hard subject. I have known people who have got them and the really regretted it, I have also known people that have gotten them and have been perfectly fine. I see it like this.  A women goes into get it done, and It is TIME CONSUMING. You have to heal, along with the symptoms you may get like Jill said. A man getting a vasectomy is fairly simple. They are in and out. Of course there are some risk with them, too. The only problem I've seen with the vasectomy is when men get it reversed. I don't know. Like Jill said, I would just do my research. You doctor can REALLY help you with this.

• 09-03-2009 10:26 PM

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  Jill - Arizona Mom Joined on 12-10-2005 Lilyana Elise born 11/24/08 Posts 5,201

  Re: Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation Reply Contact KaiMacWonder:  This is a hard subject. I have known people who have got them and the really regretted it, I have also known people that have gotten them and have been perfectly fine. I see it like this.  A women goes into get it done, and It is TIME CONSUMING. You have to heal, along with the symptoms you may get like Jill said. A man getting a vasectomy is fairly simple. They are in and out. Of course there are some risk with them, too. The only problem I've seen with the vasectomy is when men get it reversed. I don't know. Like Jill said, I would just do my research. You doctor can REALLY help you with this. Your doctor can help, as long as you have a good one.  I specifically asked my OB about PTLS and he dismissed it like it wasn't real.  I agree with the time consuming part.  I don't know about 2 days in bed.  I mean, I had mine combined with a c-section, but I swear, the tubal was more painful.  Days 2 & 3 were the worst, I was on heavy duty drugs for those two days.  I was sore from the tubal for quite awhile.  It might be different if it's just a tubal without a c-section, I don't know.

• 09-05-2009 1:38 PM

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  Jasmineandambersmom Joined on 10-14-2007 Blair Nebraska Posts 691

  Re: Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation Reply Contact i personally would not do it it is way harder on a women and way more expensive my husband just got a vasectomy and he says he did not feel anything just a little sting when they numbed him up and he was feeling fine the entire time it is a minor procedure and my husband was home a week but even he said he could have gone back to work earlier cuz he felt fine three days after. not to mean but your husband is totally overreacting about the vasectomy we did not even need a referral to to the urologist. i would really have him reconsider and also maybe call and set up a consult at a urologist so he can get all the real facts about a vasectomy and you go with him and also do the same for you and have hime go with once you both have the facts and also know all the possibly outcomes then make a decision. i will say this a woman has a lot more complications with a tubal than a man could have with a vasectomy. and everyone i know that has had a tubal has regretted it or had problems since they got it done and do not reccomend it

• 09-06-2009 8:03 PM

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  KaiMacWonder Joined on 06-28-2009 Indiana Posts 30

  Re: Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation Reply Contact Jill - Arizona Mom: KaiMacWonder:  This is a hard subject. I have known people who have got them and the really regretted it, I have also known people that have gotten them and have been perfectly fine. I see it like this.  A women goes into get it done, and It is TIME CONSUMING. You have to heal, along with the symptoms you may get like Jill said. A man getting a vasectomy is fairly simple. They are in and out. Of course there are some risk with them, too. The only problem I've seen with the vasectomy is when men get it reversed. I don't know. Like Jill said, I would just do my research. You doctor can REALLY help you with this. Your doctor can help, as long as you have a good one.  I specifically asked my OB about PTLS and he dismissed it like it wasn't real.  I agree with the time consuming part.  I don't know about 2 days in bed.  I mean, I had mine combined with a c-section, but I swear, the tubal was more painful.  Days 2 & 3 were the worst, I was on heavy duty drugs for those two days.  I was sore from the tubal for quite awhile.  It might be different if it's just a tubal without a c-section, I don't know.     There are 5 kids between me and my brothers. With my last brother my moms doctor did her tubs the day after she had my brother. She was really hurting.

• 10-14-2009 3:50 AM

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  jess2922836 Joined on 07-14-2008 Posts 1,121	Re: Going to ask OB to schedule a Tubal Ligation Reply Contact  Dev hope u are feeling better.   Join our new web site we miss u  http://december2008.smfforfree3.com/index.php